The Mafia vs The Yakuza

Wow, that is going to be a tough call. If you go Prohibition-era mafia with the Tommy Gun you pictured, you're looking at a .45 caliber round, which will have a bigger punch than what I imagine the Yakuza would pack. Plus it's fully automatic, which, as you say, would probably be tough to get a hold of in Japan.

You don't hear about modern-day mafioso packing machine guns, though, so if we're talking modern day, I'd say they're probably about equal on the firearms card.

I'm not sure what else would give either side an edge. Katana, certainly, but I'm going to assume that won't count. Garrotes? Switchblades & stilettos? I'm guessing you're going to come down to hand-to-hand at some point. Is it safe to assume the Yakuza studied martial arts, and the mafia, mabye boxing? If so, I'd give the Yakuza the edge for versatility (throws, takedowns, joint locks) vs straight pugilism.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what they actually count.

Oh, and given I'm Sicilian by blood, I guess I should say “Go mafia!” Heh.

wish i knew more about the two groups.

i still think the whole concept of 'one wins, one loses' is silly. even sillier when killing is extremely strategy-based, non-battlefield style. i dont really see a situation where either is going to be decked out, all alone in a city.

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I love mob movies.

If you're interested in the Yakuza, then check out the Japan Subculture Research Center; and remember, even nine fingered guys get the blues.

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hmm I think I'm missing the software that would allow me to read that page

yea i think it's prohibition era

Well I'm pleased with the result – my guesswork payed off.

As a student of okinawan kobudo, I have to say that the yakuza member seemed a little ill-at-ease with the nunchaku and sai. He was able to spin the nunchaku around ok, but didn't seem to know how to use them for real damage. To generate the kind of power needed to kill and maim, he needed to hold the weapon at the very bottom of the shaft, not at the very top. Holding it at the top is only useful for tricking.

Furthermore, he didn't use proper hip rotation to propel the weapon through the point of impact. With a chained weapon like that, you can't rely on sheer velocity from the weapon itself.

As for the sai, I think perhaps he hadn't used them that much before. His hand positions were weird and a little bit of kata practice would have taught him much better stabbing positions.

Ok – I object! Not that Spike TV cares but this is worse than the pirate vs. the knight… how a pirate is a warrior… maybe a villain! I don't think Spike TV cares about my objections.

I dislike the mob, gangs and so forth of any variety. Other than as a normally law abiding citizen, my grandpa was probably killed by the mob in the early 1900's for not paying protection money. Do you want to know how I really feel? No worries – I think you can get my drift.

Hey – maybe it will be a tie and they will both take each other out?

I'd have to agree with you john! I know I would never use the term warrior to describe either of these groups.

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Try this:

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev...

It’s just a website. I can’t imagine what’s not working.

It is rather contrived, but I think this is why they run 1000 simulations through the computer. Some of the “battles” have been closer than others.

and once again, it was the shotgun that sealed it.

perhaps they should call this program “deadliest shotgun”?

also matt it's no surprise the yakuza guy couldn't use any traditional weapons, these guys are thugs and gangsters, not martial artists. sure, it might be impressive to beat someone down with nunchacku, but at the end of the day a gun, club or knife gets the job done a whole lot easier.

for real, how can you argue with a shotgun. Next week will be green beret / spetnaz, sho look for sniper rifles to get in the mix too.

From what I understand, both the Yakuza and the Mafia took their inspirations from revolutionary secret societies formed in China to overthrow the Mongols, and later the Manchus.

Those Chinese secret societies evolved into the Triads we know today. The Yakuza and the Mafia followed similar paths, from revolutionaries to organized criminals.

So to me, it's really comparing apples to apples.

Missed it! I'll have to catch it on the net.

There is a reason fire arms replaced martial arts in combat. They still have a place if you end up unarmed. But at the end of the day a 9th dan is toast if you have an M16.

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The Yakuza get their guns from the Philippines where there is a major cottage industry in knock offs of popular guns. You can see the Mo'berg m500 copies with every security guard in front of every bank in Manila. The guns are made in Cebu. So really the weapons should be equal.

The Yakuza get their guns from the Philippines where there is a major cottage industry in knock offs of popular guns. You can see the Mo'berg m500 copies with every security guard in front of every bank in Manila. The guns are made in Cebu. So really the weapons should be equal.

well, Casting Mafia hit men verses the Yakuza, Japan's version of a criminal syndicate!

Mafia!