Comments on: The Interweaving of Kata Beauty, Application, and Perfection http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/the-intermingling-of-kata-beauty-application-and-perfection/ Ikigai - exploring traditional karate and martial arts. A karate and martial arts blog that explores theory, philosophy, technique, and more. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Topics about America » Archive » Think naturalness not perfection http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/the-intermingling-of-kata-beauty-application-and-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-5993 Topics about America » Archive » Think naturalness not perfection Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:39:16 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=797#comment-5993 [...] The Interweaving of Kata Beauty, Application, and Perfection [...] [...] The Interweaving of Kata Beauty, Application, and Perfection [...]

]]> By: Anthony http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/the-intermingling-of-kata-beauty-application-and-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-4590 Anthony Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:38:48 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=797#comment-4590 Great article. Watching most of the youtube versions, while some focused on power, nearly all had far too much telegraphing... which made them poor. Even tatsuo's had way too much telegraphing (his age an excuse for his lack of physicality). Thinking effectiveness, but NOT thinking about minimized telegraphing equates to NOT thinking effectiveness! There is no point having 'effectiveness' and 'power' in mind if you are lacking speed (an important part of self-defence) and exude telegraphing. While the top two tournament kata were quite poor, there are many pro-tournament karate-ka who have drama, but also have devastating speed, minimal telegraphing and power. I used to do tournaments and hammed drama up for tournaments...because i had to. But in the dojo, none of that was ever present. And obviously in bunkai training it wasn't either. Many karate-a are quick to point out the flaws in tournament karate-ka. And while there are flaws, we have to be sure we aren't speaking out of jealousy. Many of the WKF karate 5-6 hours a day and are incredible weapons. Its harsh to judge their whole karate journey from watching one performance kata. Where these people have weaknesses we have strengths, and where we have weaknesses, they have strengths. So who are we to condemn? But i did love your point about "if you are thinking too much about you, then you arent thinking about the kata) Great article.
Watching most of the youtube versions, while some focused on power, nearly all had far too much telegraphing… which made them poor. Even tatsuo’s had way too much telegraphing (his age an excuse for his lack of physicality). Thinking effectiveness, but NOT thinking about minimized telegraphing equates to NOT thinking effectiveness!

There is no point having ‘effectiveness’ and ‘power’ in mind if you are lacking speed (an important part of self-defence) and exude telegraphing.

While the top two tournament kata were quite poor, there are many pro-tournament karate-ka who have drama, but also have devastating speed, minimal telegraphing and power.
I used to do tournaments and hammed drama up for tournaments…because i had to. But in the dojo, none of that was ever present. And obviously in bunkai training it wasn’t either.

Many karate-a are quick to point out the flaws in tournament karate-ka. And while there are flaws, we have to be sure we aren’t speaking out of jealousy. Many of the WKF karate 5-6 hours a day and are incredible weapons. Its harsh to judge their whole karate journey from watching one performance kata.

Where these people have weaknesses we have strengths, and where we have weaknesses, they have strengths. So who are we to condemn? But i did love your point about “if you are thinking too much about you, then you arent thinking about the kata)

]]> By: Anthony http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/the-intermingling-of-kata-beauty-application-and-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-12107 Anthony Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:38:00 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=797#comment-12107 Great article. Watching most of the youtube versions, while some focused on power, nearly all had far too much telegraphing... which made them poor. Even tatsuo's had way too much telegraphing (his age an excuse for his lack of physicality). Thinking effectiveness, but NOT thinking about minimized telegraphing equates to NOT thinking effectiveness! There is no point having 'effectiveness' and 'power' in mind if you are lacking speed (an important part of self-defence) and exude telegraphing. While the top two tournament kata were quite poor, there are many pro-tournament karate-ka who have drama, but also have devastating speed, minimal telegraphing and power. I used to do tournaments and hammed drama up for tournaments...because i had to. But in the dojo, none of that was ever present. And obviously in bunkai training it wasn't either. Many karate-a are quick to point out the flaws in tournament karate-ka. And while there are flaws, we have to be sure we aren't speaking out of jealousy. Many of the WKF karate 5-6 hours a day and are incredible weapons. Its harsh to judge their whole karate journey from watching one performance kata. Where these people have weaknesses we have strengths, and where we have weaknesses, they have strengths. So who are we to condemn? But i did love your point about "if you are thinking too much about you, then you arent thinking about the kata) Great article.
Watching most of the youtube versions, while some focused on power, nearly all had far too much telegraphing… which made them poor. Even tatsuo’s had way too much telegraphing (his age an excuse for his lack of physicality). Thinking effectiveness, but NOT thinking about minimized telegraphing equates to NOT thinking effectiveness!

There is no point having ‘effectiveness’ and ‘power’ in mind if you are lacking speed (an important part of self-defence) and exude telegraphing.

While the top two tournament kata were quite poor, there are many pro-tournament karate-ka who have drama, but also have devastating speed, minimal telegraphing and power.
I used to do tournaments and hammed drama up for tournaments…because i had to. But in the dojo, none of that was ever present. And obviously in bunkai training it wasn’t either.

Many karate-a are quick to point out the flaws in tournament karate-ka. And while there are flaws, we have to be sure we aren’t speaking out of jealousy. Many of the WKF karate 5-6 hours a day and are incredible weapons. Its harsh to judge their whole karate journey from watching one performance kata.

Where these people have weaknesses we have strengths, and where we have weaknesses, they have strengths. So who are we to condemn? But i did love your point about “if you are thinking too much about you, then you arent thinking about the kata)

]]> By: Chris Littlefair http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/the-intermingling-of-kata-beauty-application-and-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-3415 Chris Littlefair Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:24:11 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=797#comment-3415 Thought about the points you raised in this article in my hyung training last night. Very useful... Thought about the points you raised in this article in my hyung training last night. Very useful…

]]> By: Chris Littlefair http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/the-intermingling-of-kata-beauty-application-and-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-12106 Chris Littlefair Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:24:00 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=797#comment-12106 Thought about the points you raised in this article in my hyung training last night. Very useful... Thought about the points you raised in this article in my hyung training last night. Very useful…

]]> By: Massimo Gaetani http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/the-intermingling-of-kata-beauty-application-and-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-2983 Massimo Gaetani Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:24:14 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=797#comment-2983 I liked this post so much that I started to write a comment. When this comment was too long and a bit controversial I thought it was a better idea to write my own post on a similar topic and link it to yours. Great inspiration: thanks. I liked this post so much that I started to write a comment. When this comment was too long and a bit controversial I thought it was a better idea to write my own post on a similar topic and link it to yours. Great inspiration: thanks.

]]> By: Massimo Gaetani http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/the-intermingling-of-kata-beauty-application-and-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-12105 Massimo Gaetani Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:24:00 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=797#comment-12105 I liked this post so much that I started to write a comment. When this comment was too long and a bit controversial I thought it was a better idea to write my own post on a similar topic and link it to yours. Great inspiration: thanks. I liked this post so much that I started to write a comment. When this comment was too long and a bit controversial I thought it was a better idea to write my own post on a similar topic and link it to yours. Great inspiration: thanks.

]]> By: Foxy Citrus http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/the-intermingling-of-kata-beauty-application-and-perfection/comment-page-1/#comment-2943 Foxy Citrus Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:24:55 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=797#comment-2943 New post plz. New post plz.

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