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	<title>Comments on: Martial Arts Involved in Chris Brown, Rihanna Assault Case?</title>
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		<title>By: ruben dobson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruben dobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knowing martial arts and being a martial artist are two different things. And taking a karate class twice a week for 6 months means nothing..chris brown is a disgrace and does not deserve his name and martial arts in the same sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knowing martial arts and being a martial artist are two different things. And taking a karate class twice a week for 6 months means nothing..chris brown is a disgrace and does not deserve his name and martial arts in the same sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were parked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were parked.</p>
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		<title>By: Still Not Mad At Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Still Not Mad At Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Regards to the martial arts comment.  I think the point is more so that he was basically able to beat her ass with one hand wi=hile driving with the other.  That&#039;s where that training came into play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Regards to the martial arts comment.  I think the point is more so that he was basically able to beat her ass with one hand wi=hile driving with the other.  That&#8217;s where that training came into play.</p>
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		<title>By: coffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>coffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this whole situations is shocking, especially since Rihanna and Chris Brown seemed like such a perfect couple</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this whole situations is shocking, especially since Rihanna and Chris Brown seemed like such a perfect couple</p>
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		<title>By: I Challenge Kimbo Slice to a Fair Fight</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Challenge Kimbo Slice to a Fair Fight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reportedly beating up his celebrity girlfriend, Rihanna, R&amp;B singer Brown has become the newest target of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reportedly beating up his celebrity girlfriend, Rihanna, R&#38;B singer Brown has become the newest target of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bria webster</title>
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		<dc:creator>bria webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that rihanna shoud have never took chris brown keys and threw them out the windows!!!!and is chris brown gone go on with his singinig career..
could you please email me back asap cause i want to know and imma big fan of him!!!!my email is:lil_bae08@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that rihanna shoud have never took chris brown keys and threw them out the windows!!!!and is chris brown gone go on with his singinig career..<br />
could you please email me back asap cause i want to know and imma big fan of him!!!!my email is:lil_bae08@yahoo.com</p>
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		<title>By: Massimo Gaetani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Massimo Gaetani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News papers and media will do the best to attract attention to their news so whatever they write should be taken with a pinch of salt.  Most people know very little about martial arts and that&#039;s why they assume that is somebody did karate (or something) for 3 months in their life then, automatically, they will be proficient in using what they learned years before in any situation in their life... Punching, chocking and biting seems very basic to me, not really the technique that you would describe as best practice in any style of martial art. In any case a man that had any decent training in martial arts should know better than beating his girlfriend, while I can understand that somebody that throws out of the window the keys of your Lamborghini might be a bit _irritating_  Did they actually check if the guy was on drugs, drank or both: that could have been a much more basic reason for the pitiful ending of that night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News papers and media will do the best to attract attention to their news so whatever they write should be taken with a pinch of salt.  Most people know very little about martial arts and that&#8217;s why they assume that is somebody did karate (or something) for 3 months in their life then, automatically, they will be proficient in using what they learned years before in any situation in their life&#8230; Punching, chocking and biting seems very basic to me, not really the technique that you would describe as best practice in any style of martial art. In any case a man that had any decent training in martial arts should know better than beating his girlfriend, while I can understand that somebody that throws out of the window the keys of your Lamborghini might be a bit _irritating_  Did they actually check if the guy was on drugs, drank or both: that could have been a much more basic reason for the pitiful ending of that night.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chris, I&#039;m listening to ya!

Personally, I agree with you 100% - other people changing their behavior is indeed a poor substitute. It doesn&#039;t change the reality of the situation though. Celebrity behavior affects young people and can create a ripple down effect.

Another reality is documented studies connecting a history of family violence to perpetuated violence throughout generations - http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/3/404 . Hence the inclusion of that information in this case&#039;s coverage.

Something that hasn&#039;t been documented or substantiated is that martial arts schools are filled with violence loving wife abusers. In fact, I would say that the majority of people are there for self defense and fitness. But again, we are both just making conjecture. My main point above was that they threw in martial arts without any sort of substantiation. Both of our &#039;maybe sorta&#039; guesses isn&#039;t enough to warrant the immediate connection between martial arts and domestic violence. That&#039;s why I brought it into question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris, I&#8217;m listening to ya!</p>
<p>Personally, I agree with you 100% &#8211; other people changing their behavior is indeed a poor substitute. It doesn&#8217;t change the reality of the situation though. Celebrity behavior affects young people and can create a ripple down effect.</p>
<p>Another reality is documented studies connecting a history of family violence to perpetuated violence throughout generations &#8211; <a href="http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/3/404" rel="nofollow">http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/126/3/404</a> . Hence the inclusion of that information in this case&#8217;s coverage.</p>
<p>Something that hasn&#8217;t been documented or substantiated is that martial arts schools are filled with violence loving wife abusers. In fact, I would say that the majority of people are there for self defense and fitness. But again, we are both just making conjecture. My main point above was that they threw in martial arts without any sort of substantiation. Both of our &#8216;maybe sorta&#8217; guesses isn&#8217;t enough to warrant the immediate connection between martial arts and domestic violence. That&#8217;s why I brought it into question.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris &#124; Martial Development</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris &#124; Martial Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew, I did not mean to nitpick any individual point in this post.  It&#039;s just that I didn&#039;t want to write, &quot;I disagree with the entire thing,&quot; although I do! ;)

Personally, I view any character-improvement approach that requires &lt;i&gt;other people&lt;/i&gt; to change their behavior, as a poor solution.  That includes the behavior of celebrities, especially.

I would expect those people who consider violence an effective communication tool, to gravitate towards martial arts and other violent or contact sports.  Why wouldn&#039;t they?  You tell me.  

That does not mean that martial arts corrupted these otherwise noble citizens, but it does suggest (statistically speaking) that martial artists are more likely to commit an act of domestic violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew, I did not mean to nitpick any individual point in this post.  It&#8217;s just that I didn&#8217;t want to write, &#8220;I disagree with the entire thing,&#8221; although I do! <img src='http://www.ikigaiway.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Personally, I view any character-improvement approach that requires <i>other people</i> to change their behavior, as a poor solution.  That includes the behavior of celebrities, especially.</p>
<p>I would expect those people who consider violence an effective communication tool, to gravitate towards martial arts and other violent or contact sports.  Why wouldn&#8217;t they?  You tell me.  </p>
<p>That does not mean that martial arts corrupted these otherwise noble citizens, but it does suggest (statistically speaking) that martial artists are more likely to commit an act of domestic violence.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair points Chris. There are definitely some assumptions made on my part as to the general nature of martial arts. However I think you may have misinterpreted some of the arguments:

* No one said anything about celebrities being responsible for setting moral standards. What I did say is that young people will and do emulate them, so they carry the burden of creating a positive persona (whether or not they choose to recognize that). This is unmistakeably true.

* Choking, biting, and punching are not &#039;particularly&#039; martial arts techniques. In this situation, they speak much more indicatively of classic domestic violence. Making a connection to martial arts is a stretch.

* I have yet to see hard evidence that suggests martial artists are more prone to domestic violence, which would in-turn justify the inclusion of martial arts into this case.

You seem to have missed the specifics here in favor of singling out potential &#039;wishful thinking&#039; scenarios. I definitely appreciate your input though, and I certainly see that some of my arguments are a bit based on assumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair points Chris. There are definitely some assumptions made on my part as to the general nature of martial arts. However I think you may have misinterpreted some of the arguments:</p>
<p>* No one said anything about celebrities being responsible for setting moral standards. What I did say is that young people will and do emulate them, so they carry the burden of creating a positive persona (whether or not they choose to recognize that). This is unmistakeably true.</p>
<p>* Choking, biting, and punching are not &#8216;particularly&#8217; martial arts techniques. In this situation, they speak much more indicatively of classic domestic violence. Making a connection to martial arts is a stretch.</p>
<p>* I have yet to see hard evidence that suggests martial artists are more prone to domestic violence, which would in-turn justify the inclusion of martial arts into this case.</p>
<p>You seem to have missed the specifics here in favor of singling out potential &#8216;wishful thinking&#8217; scenarios. I definitely appreciate your input though, and I certainly see that some of my arguments are a bit based on assumption.</p>
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