Comments on: Learning vs “Debunking” (And How to Peek Over Your Wall) http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/ Ikigai - exploring traditional karate and martial arts. A karate and martial arts blog that explores theory, philosophy, technique, and more. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:04:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jack Bower http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-16224 Jack Bower Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:39:00 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-16224 Great post, man. I used to hang out in a martial arts group on Myspace (before they turned the site inside out) and there were always about 5 or 6 regulars who refuse to look outside their own "box" and evaluate foreign concepts and styles. Great post, man. I used to hang out in a martial arts group on Myspace
(before they turned the site inside out) and there were always about 5
or 6 regulars who refuse to look outside their own “box” and evaluate
foreign concepts and styles.

]]> By: jessecrouch http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-8120 jessecrouch Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:27:54 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-8120 I like this post. I know way too many people who refuse to think outside of their style because of this sort of thinking. A big problem is the failure to communicate goals in each scenario.. one person sees it one way because his scenario is different than the other guy's.<br><br>Big point I want to bring up though: There is a big difference between opinions on style and plainly just doing something wrong. You haven't confused the two at all in your article, but to everyone: being open doesn't mean you can't point out when people are doing something that just plainly won't work, no matter what they do. I like this post. I know way too many people who refuse to think outside of their style because of this sort of thinking. A big problem is the failure to communicate goals in each scenario.. one person sees it one way because his scenario is different than the other guy's.

Big point I want to bring up though: There is a big difference between opinions on style and plainly just doing something wrong. You haven't confused the two at all in your article, but to everyone: being open doesn't mean you can't point out when people are doing something that just plainly won't work, no matter what they do.

]]> By: jessecrouch http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7577 jessecrouch Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:27:54 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7577 I like this post. I know way too many people who refuse to think outside of their style because of this sort of thinking. A big problem is the failure to communicate goals in each scenario.. one person sees it one way because his scenario is different than the other guy's.<br><br>Big point I want to bring up though: There is a big difference between opinions on style and plainly just doing something wrong. You haven't confused the two at all in your article, but to everyone: being open doesn't mean you can't point out when people are doing something that just plainly won't work, no matter what they do. I like this post. I know way too many people who refuse to think outside of their style because of this sort of thinking. A big problem is the failure to communicate goals in each scenario.. one person sees it one way because his scenario is different than the other guy's.

Big point I want to bring up though: There is a big difference between opinions on style and plainly just doing something wrong. You haven't confused the two at all in your article, but to everyone: being open doesn't mean you can't point out when people are doing something that just plainly won't work, no matter what they do.

]]> By: The True Kata Applications...Part 3 | ActionKarateArts.com http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7498 The True Kata Applications...Part 3 | ActionKarateArts.com Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:43:41 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7498 [...] extreme some people can get when talking about an abstract concept…trying so passionately to debunk what they see as other peoples “misguided” ideas.  This applies to anything: politics, [...] [...] extreme some people can get when talking about an abstract concept…trying so passionately to debunk what they see as other peoples “misguided” ideas.  This applies to anything: politics, [...]

]]> By: Open your mind | Gisoku Budo http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7207 Open your mind | Gisoku Budo Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:59:04 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7207 [...] over at Ikigai posted an awesome and humble post on the importance of keeping an open mind when approaching the study and .... There really isn’t a whole lot more to add to what he’s covered, and I can see my [...] [...] over at Ikigai posted an awesome and humble post on the importance of keeping an open mind when approaching the study and …. There really isn’t a whole lot more to add to what he’s covered, and I can see my [...]

]]> By: Matt__A http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7208 Matt__A Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:09:12 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7208 John - actually I'd say you aren't playing the devil's advocate. I mention in the lower portion of the article that I have kept a critical mind because it is helpful in analyzing styles and people - but also kept an open mind to what could be effective about it.<br><br>Thank you for the compliment - much appreciated! John – actually I'd say you aren't playing the devil's advocate. I mention in the lower portion of the article that I have kept a critical mind because it is helpful in analyzing styles and people – but also kept an open mind to what could be effective about it.

Thank you for the compliment – much appreciated!

]]> By: John W. Zimmer http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7204 John W. Zimmer Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:31:11 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7204 Hey Matt, <br><br>Playing the devils advocate, consider that as a fighter, finding issues with your potential opponents fighting methods might actually help you defeat them in a tournament.<br><br>When I use to fight in sport karate, I used to watch other fighters to see what weaknesses they had because I helped put me into the zone... that state of consensus that would allow me to take advantage of any "mistake."<br><br>I do understand you point about finding merit in other styles and as I have always said, it is not the style but the fighter that wins or loses.<br><br>As usual, a very well constructed article! Hey Matt,

Playing the devils advocate, consider that as a fighter, finding issues with your potential opponents fighting methods might actually help you defeat them in a tournament.

When I use to fight in sport karate, I used to watch other fighters to see what weaknesses they had because I helped put me into the zone… that state of consensus that would allow me to take advantage of any “mistake.”

I do understand you point about finding merit in other styles and as I have always said, it is not the style but the fighter that wins or loses.

As usual, a very well constructed article!

]]> By: Martial Arts News 9.11.09 « Striking Thoughts http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7203 Martial Arts News 9.11.09 « Striking Thoughts Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:03:24 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7203 [...] offers some very sound advice. Using a critical mind to assess both the valuable and not-so-valuable in other methods has [...] [...] offers some very sound advice. Using a critical mind to assess both the valuable and not-so-valuable in other methods has [...]

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