Comments on: Learning vs “Debunking” (And How to Peek Over Your Wall) http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/ Ikigai - exploring traditional karate and martial arts. A karate and martial arts blog that explores theory, philosophy, technique, and more. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:28:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: jessecrouch http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-8120 jessecrouch Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:27:54 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-8120 I like this post. I know way too many people who refuse to think outside of their style because of this sort of thinking. A big problem is the failure to communicate goals in each scenario.. one person sees it one way because his scenario is different than the other guy's.<br><br>Big point I want to bring up though: There is a big difference between opinions on style and plainly just doing something wrong. You haven't confused the two at all in your article, but to everyone: being open doesn't mean you can't point out when people are doing something that just plainly won't work, no matter what they do. I like this post. I know way too many people who refuse to think outside of their style because of this sort of thinking. A big problem is the failure to communicate goals in each scenario.. one person sees it one way because his scenario is different than the other guy's.

Big point I want to bring up though: There is a big difference between opinions on style and plainly just doing something wrong. You haven't confused the two at all in your article, but to everyone: being open doesn't mean you can't point out when people are doing something that just plainly won't work, no matter what they do.

]]> By: jessecrouch http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7577 jessecrouch Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:27:54 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7577 I like this post. I know way too many people who refuse to think outside of their style because of this sort of thinking. A big problem is the failure to communicate goals in each scenario.. one person sees it one way because his scenario is different than the other guy's.<br><br>Big point I want to bring up though: There is a big difference between opinions on style and plainly just doing something wrong. You haven't confused the two at all in your article, but to everyone: being open doesn't mean you can't point out when people are doing something that just plainly won't work, no matter what they do. I like this post. I know way too many people who refuse to think outside of their style because of this sort of thinking. A big problem is the failure to communicate goals in each scenario.. one person sees it one way because his scenario is different than the other guy's.

Big point I want to bring up though: There is a big difference between opinions on style and plainly just doing something wrong. You haven't confused the two at all in your article, but to everyone: being open doesn't mean you can't point out when people are doing something that just plainly won't work, no matter what they do.

]]> By: The True Kata Applications...Part 3 | ActionKarateArts.com http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7498 The True Kata Applications...Part 3 | ActionKarateArts.com Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:43:41 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7498 [...] extreme some people can get when talking about an abstract concept…trying so passionately to debunk what they see as other peoples “misguided” ideas.  This applies to anything: politics, [...] [...] extreme some people can get when talking about an abstract concept…trying so passionately to debunk what they see as other peoples “misguided” ideas.  This applies to anything: politics, [...]

]]> By: Open your mind | Gisoku Budo http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7207 Open your mind | Gisoku Budo Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:59:04 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7207 [...] over at Ikigai posted an awesome and humble post on the importance of keeping an open mind when approaching the study and .... There really isn’t a whole lot more to add to what he’s covered, and I can see my [...] [...] over at Ikigai posted an awesome and humble post on the importance of keeping an open mind when approaching the study and …. There really isn’t a whole lot more to add to what he’s covered, and I can see my [...]

]]> By: Matt__A http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7208 Matt__A Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:09:12 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7208 John - actually I'd say you aren't playing the devil's advocate. I mention in the lower portion of the article that I have kept a critical mind because it is helpful in analyzing styles and people - but also kept an open mind to what could be effective about it.<br><br>Thank you for the compliment - much appreciated! John – actually I'd say you aren't playing the devil's advocate. I mention in the lower portion of the article that I have kept a critical mind because it is helpful in analyzing styles and people – but also kept an open mind to what could be effective about it.

Thank you for the compliment – much appreciated!

]]> By: John W. Zimmer http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7204 John W. Zimmer Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:31:11 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7204 Hey Matt, <br><br>Playing the devils advocate, consider that as a fighter, finding issues with your potential opponents fighting methods might actually help you defeat them in a tournament.<br><br>When I use to fight in sport karate, I used to watch other fighters to see what weaknesses they had because I helped put me into the zone... that state of consensus that would allow me to take advantage of any "mistake."<br><br>I do understand you point about finding merit in other styles and as I have always said, it is not the style but the fighter that wins or loses.<br><br>As usual, a very well constructed article! Hey Matt,

Playing the devils advocate, consider that as a fighter, finding issues with your potential opponents fighting methods might actually help you defeat them in a tournament.

When I use to fight in sport karate, I used to watch other fighters to see what weaknesses they had because I helped put me into the zone… that state of consensus that would allow me to take advantage of any “mistake.”

I do understand you point about finding merit in other styles and as I have always said, it is not the style but the fighter that wins or loses.

As usual, a very well constructed article!

]]> By: Martial Arts News 9.11.09 « Striking Thoughts http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7203 Martial Arts News 9.11.09 « Striking Thoughts Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:03:24 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7203 [...] offers some very sound advice. Using a critical mind to assess both the valuable and not-so-valuable in other methods has [...] [...] offers some very sound advice. Using a critical mind to assess both the valuable and not-so-valuable in other methods has [...]

]]> By: FoxyCitrus http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7201 FoxyCitrus Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:39:39 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7201 I'm alarmed by how many people I can name in that second picture. I am also alarmed how well you've illustrated my life's theme in the third picture. I'm alarmed by how many people I can name in that second picture. I am also alarmed how well you've illustrated my life's theme in the third picture.

]]> By: Design Fiction: A Short Essay on Design, Science, Fact and Fiction « learn4kicks http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7199 Design Fiction: A Short Essay on Design, Science, Fact and Fiction « learn4kicks Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:53:26 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7199 [...] a brilliant post about Learning and Debunking (How to Peek over your wall) today from Ikigai, we can choose to build up our walls, peer over them or pull them down as a [...] [...] a brilliant post about Learning and Debunking (How to Peek over your wall) today from Ikigai, we can choose to build up our walls, peer over them or pull them down as a [...]

]]> By: Matt__A http://www.ikigaiway.com/2009/learning-vs-debunking-and-how-to-peek-over-your-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-7198 Matt__A Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:14:00 +0000 http://www.ikigaiway.com/?p=2592#comment-7198 I definitely still have hundreds of questions and experiences to work through! haha I definitely still have hundreds of questions and experiences to work through! haha

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