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	<title>Comments on: Surprising Similarities - Silat and Karate</title>
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		<title>By: Pages tagged "silat"</title>
		<link>http://www.ikigaiway.com/2008/surprising-similarities-silat-and-karate/#comment-825</link>
		<dc:creator>Pages tagged "silat"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan Paden</title>
		<link>http://www.ikigaiway.com/2008/surprising-similarities-silat-and-karate/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Paden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post.  I have also noticed many similarities between the two systems, at least based on the YouTube clips I've seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post.  I have also noticed many similarities between the two systems, at least based on the YouTube clips I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Belt Mama</title>
		<link>http://www.ikigaiway.com/2008/surprising-similarities-silat-and-karate/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Belt Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your very kind words there Ikigai! I can't believe you hadn't seen this episode before!  I missed the TKD one where Jason supposedly tears his ACL so I'll have to see if I can find it on youtube now that some time has passed. 

I had all of these episodes saved on my Tivo, but something tells me that they are gone thanks to the move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your very kind words there Ikigai! I can&#8217;t believe you hadn&#8217;t seen this episode before!  I missed the TKD one where Jason supposedly tears his ACL so I&#8217;ll have to see if I can find it on youtube now that some time has passed. </p>
<p>I had all of these episodes saved on my Tivo, but something tells me that they are gone thanks to the move.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BrandenSan: Yea check out the episode if you can; in fact, most of it is on youtube (Sshhhh).  The rolling technique is something Sensei Bill Hayes does really well, and he utilizes that kick as part of kosa-dachi transitioning.

Mr. Patterson: What a killer comment!  Thank you for taking the time to provide us with some insight into chin na.  For readers that are interested in more, check out Mr. Patterson's blog &lt;a href="http://strikingthoughts.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Striking Thoughts.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrandenSan: Yea check out the episode if you can; in fact, most of it is on youtube (Sshhhh).  The rolling technique is something Sensei Bill Hayes does really well, and he utilizes that kick as part of kosa-dachi transitioning.</p>
<p>Mr. Patterson: What a killer comment!  Thank you for taking the time to provide us with some insight into chin na.  For readers that are interested in more, check out Mr. Patterson&#8217;s blog <a href="http://strikingthoughts.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Striking Thoughts.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Branden</title>
		<link>http://www.ikigaiway.com/2008/surprising-similarities-silat-and-karate/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Branden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very impressive article Matt-san! 

I've watch most of these episodes, but haven't seen this one. I find it interesting how the two American gentlemen hosting the show always comment on the force of the power and speed of the blows, but never mention things like slipping to the dead side on the first video and the roll of the fist around the captured wrist in the second. 

Nice catch you your part sir! 

I'm looking forward to your next couple articles... I know you've probably got a dozen or so pre-written, so out with them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very impressive article Matt-san! </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve watch most of these episodes, but haven&#8217;t seen this one. I find it interesting how the two American gentlemen hosting the show always comment on the force of the power and speed of the blows, but never mention things like slipping to the dead side on the first video and the roll of the fist around the captured wrist in the second. </p>
<p>Nice catch you your part sir! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to your next couple articles&#8230; I know you&#8217;ve probably got a dozen or so pre-written, so out with them!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Patterson</title>
		<link>http://www.ikigaiway.com/2008/surprising-similarities-silat-and-karate/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After I finally got serious about taekwondo I too started to see connections from the other arts I've dabbled in. Now that I'm mainly studying chin na the tradition continues so your post is very interesting. Short and sweet:

1. Most of the chin na that I'm learning tries to position you to the attacker's outside. This so at best they have to punch across their body which is not very effective. 

2. Not sure about block counter parallels...We are taught to emphasize speed over technique. If you pull chin na off with speed and get it half write you still can disrupt someone. This opens them up for the "kill shot" aka a punch, kick, knee, etc.

3.Balanced stances are very important. Last night when I learned "forward turning elbow" we use that exact same horse stance. Basically you check a punch, slide and grab, crank them into a goose neck wrist lock while simultaneously stepping through and to the side into horse stance. When you do this even if you mess the lock up they are off balance (aka uprooted). In fact, attacker is practically bent backwards and in half. 

4. Vital striking is stressed more in chin na than taekwondo. Every chin na technique has the option (and intent) to give you a window where you can strike vital points. Funny but some martial arts might consider it dirty fighting. Also something called "stealing your opponent's mind". 

5. The closest parallel to bunaki would be how the advanced chin na folks learn to freestyle flow from technique to technique and respond to their changing opponent. Sadly, at level one there's not much of that because we are still foundation building.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After I finally got serious about taekwondo I too started to see connections from the other arts I&#8217;ve dabbled in. Now that I&#8217;m mainly studying chin na the tradition continues so your post is very interesting. Short and sweet:</p>
<p>1. Most of the chin na that I&#8217;m learning tries to position you to the attacker&#8217;s outside. This so at best they have to punch across their body which is not very effective. </p>
<p>2. Not sure about block counter parallels&#8230;We are taught to emphasize speed over technique. If you pull chin na off with speed and get it half write you still can disrupt someone. This opens them up for the &#8220;kill shot&#8221; aka a punch, kick, knee, etc.</p>
<p>3.Balanced stances are very important. Last night when I learned &#8220;forward turning elbow&#8221; we use that exact same horse stance. Basically you check a punch, slide and grab, crank them into a goose neck wrist lock while simultaneously stepping through and to the side into horse stance. When you do this even if you mess the lock up they are off balance (aka uprooted). In fact, attacker is practically bent backwards and in half. </p>
<p>4. Vital striking is stressed more in chin na than taekwondo. Every chin na technique has the option (and intent) to give you a window where you can strike vital points. Funny but some martial arts might consider it dirty fighting. Also something called &#8220;stealing your opponent&#8217;s mind&#8221;. </p>
<p>5. The closest parallel to bunaki would be how the advanced chin na folks learn to freestyle flow from technique to technique and respond to their changing opponent. Sadly, at level one there&#8217;s not much of that because we are still foundation building.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You certainly can call yourself that!  That name indicates a state of mind and a strength of character more than color of belt.

So long as you keep being the sponge, you can use that title!

Thank you very much for stopping in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You certainly can call yourself that!  That name indicates a state of mind and a strength of character more than color of belt.</p>
<p>So long as you keep being the sponge, you can use that title!</p>
<p>Thank you very much for stopping in.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks for stopping by my place and offering your feedback into the tournament. As a brand new martial artist (can I even call myself one yet?), I truly value your input, especially once I came back and read about your background. My sensei actually nicknamed me "the Sponge" because of how I've been soaking up everything karate related since I got involved. I've thrown myself into this new world. therefore, your site is quite the find. Thanks again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for stopping by my place and offering your feedback into the tournament. As a brand new martial artist (can I even call myself one yet?), I truly value your input, especially once I came back and read about your background. My sensei actually nicknamed me &#8220;the Sponge&#8221; because of how I&#8217;ve been soaking up everything karate related since I got involved. I&#8217;ve thrown myself into this new world. therefore, your site is quite the find. Thanks again</p>
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